Joe: 00:22

Welcome back to another episode of the Freedom Talks podcast, everybody. This is your host, Joe Ogden. We're sitting down. This is actually a pretty exciting podcast because we are expanding some services here that we offer at Freedom Physical Therapy Services. We're now offering speech therapy.

Joe: 00:39

Super exciting time and just kind of, you know, what we're doing with our business model and just kind of adding a new treatment style and treatment ability for patients, which I think is awesome. So we're sitting down today with our brand new speech therapist that we just hired, Rachel Gyle.

Rachael: 00:54

Hello, everybody.

Joe: 00:56

Rachel, how are you?

Rachael: 00:57

I'm good. How are you, Joe?

Joe: 00:58

I'm good. So Rachel's been with us here now. Has it been two weeks now?

Rachael: 01:03

We're coming up on the end of the third week.

Joe: 01:05

This is third week. We're kind of starting this just from the ground up. So it's a lot of groundwork for us here at the clinic, but soon, you know, we'll be up and running with our our speech therapy portion of our business, especially in Fox Pointe. That's where we're located now. So a lot of exciting stuff that we'll kind of talk about today and kind of, you know, kind of go from there.

Joe: 01:27

So, Rachel, let's just kind of start off. Give us a little background of just kind of who you are, where you're from, where you went to school, that type of thing.

Rachael: 01:33

Yeah. So I'm born and raised in Wyoming. So it's kind of a crazy story how I got out here. But I ended up going to Concordia University Wisconsin. It was a brand new speech and speech and language master's program, and I was able to get a wide variety of experience through my clinical externships through there.

Rachael: 01:53

And then my first job, I started out in an outpatient therapy setting. I was an outpatient pediatric therapist. They also floated me into inpatient acute care as well as inpatient rehab. So I got a lot of experience across the lifespan there. I have a wide variety of experience with children, especially from the ages four and up.

Rachael: 02:13

After my outpatient placement and job, I moved back to Milwaukee. I thought after grad school I should move a little closer to home, that just didn't work out. So I moved back to Milwaukee and loved it out here. And I've been in the school systems for the past two years, so switching back over into private practice is a new endeavor, but it's definitely not something I'm not new to. I grew up with a family in the health care setting, as my mom is a pharmacist.

Rachael: 02:40

And she owns her own pharmacy back home, so I've gotten a lot of experience with customer service and just the healthcare population in general. So I feel like I offer a wide variety of services across the lifespan. As I also have dabbled in the long term care setting as well as I did PRN work as needed work last summer with them. And so I have a wide variety of experience across the lifespan and I'm looking to to expand that here at Fox Point.

Joe: 03:05

Love it. Wyoming's a long way away.

Rachael: 03:09

Mhmm. It is. It's a fifteen hour drive from here.

Joe: 03:13

Do you if you go home Mhmm. Well, let me let me not say it that way. Do you consider Wyoming still home when you say, like, where you're from?

Rachael: 03:21

Yes. Do.

Joe: 03:22

I'm from Milwaukee. But I live in Milwaukee.

Rachael: 03:24

I do actually consider Wyoming home. And when I had to change my license plate and license and ID over to Wisconsin last year, I did cry a little bit inside.

Joe: 03:34

If you go home, are you flying or are you driving?

Rachael: 03:36

Well, I have a three year old black lab, so I also don't I have a half sister that lives in the area, but I have a hard time kind of shucking my dog off on people. So I like to take him with me. So he will make that I drive a lot of the time, actually.

Joe: 03:49

Oh,

Rachael: 03:50

man. Yeah. Because even the even the flight home, I am from such a rural part of Wyoming that the closest airport is two and a half hours away.

Joe: 03:57

What is that, Cheyenne?

Rachael: 03:58

Denver. Cheyenne is in between Denver and my hometown. But have a very small airport. And so flying into Cheyenne, it is either more expensive or a little difficult depending on flight times and all that stuff. So it's still a journey to get home either way.

Joe: 04:15

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Being from Wyoming, do do you hunt at all?

Rachael: 04:18

I am probably the least stereotypical Wyoming resident you'll ever meet.

Joe: 04:22

Boring.

Rachael: 04:23

I know. Never hunted, but my family did grow up with, like, 22 shotguns. We would shoot skeet sometimes, but I was always too little to do it. So I never did it.

Joe: 04:32

Doesn't everybody from Wyoming hunt? I mean, there's nothing else to do there.

Rachael: 04:35

Right? They should hunt farmer ranch. That's the only options we have.

Joe: 04:39

So what'd you grow up doing?

Rachael: 04:42

Playing sports. I played a lot of basketball. I have two older brothers, so they played a lot of baseball. I I was toted around across The United States with all air sports.

Joe: 04:53

We

Rachael: 04:54

got creative. A lot of my friends, especially in high school, they owned hundreds of acres of land.

Joe: 05:00

Because they Yeah,

Rachael: 05:00

did farm and ranch, sometimes we would go spotlighting at night, and they would shoot rabbits and raccoons and prairie dogs, and I would just be in the back seat controlling music. But my family sang syncs, actually, together, all five of us. And so growing up we would, like, go around at my parents' gigs. They used to be in a band, and we'd go to their gigs, and I would sing with them every once in a while. And now my brothers and I, when I go home, we do a lot of gigs.

Rachael: 05:25

Oh, my and I play music. Yeah.

Joe: 05:26

What what type of music?

Rachael: 05:28

We are big into country. Country, Southern Oh,

Joe: 05:31

the best kind. Okay.

Rachael: 05:32

Yep. Cover cover music. We don't write a whole lot of our own stuff. My brothers do every once in a while, but nothing too crazy.

Joe: 05:38

So, like, local bars or events, or what do you guys like doing?

Rachael: 05:41

Local events a lot of the time. So we were home over the July 4 and the our county fair, they put on a, like, a fourth of July event and they had us play music. That one was tricky, though. They were shooting off fireworks during that gig and that was my least favorite gig, think.

Joe: 05:56

Is it called a gig?

Rachael: 05:57

You know?

Joe: 05:58

Is that just a a music thing?

Rachael: 05:59

I think it is. I don't even know the origin of that word.

Joe: 06:02

Well, it's kind of ironic if you're in into, like, doing that stuff that you're a speech therapist. Right?

Rachael: 06:07

Yeah. I mean, it's actually

Joe: 06:08

really go together, right?

Rachael: 06:09

It's actually why I got into speech therapy. So yeah, let's go dive into that. Yeah. So initially, I went into college, I wanted to be a musical therapist. That's a pretty niche like

Joe: 06:21

like a vocal.

Rachael: 06:22

No. Like they would use music to tap into patients with like dementia.

Joe: 06:26

Oh, yeah. Okay. That's like

Rachael: 06:28

a form of therapy. Yeah. And I went to the University of Wyoming in my undergrad and I they didn't offer that program. And it's a very niche program. And so they put me into the music program.

Rachael: 06:39

And I actually had a vocal scholarship that first year as they put me in that program. And I don't know if you know what music students do in their off time, but it is 100% music. And it is definitely something that you have to be equipped for or want to be equipped for it. And so I spent about four days in that program, and I was like, I cannot. I cannot do this.

Rachael: 07:01

I was scared that it would take away my passion of, like, singing because I love singing, and I didn't want the work of it all to overpower my actual want to do it. And so I went to my advisor about four days in and sobbing. I was like, I can't do this. She looked at me, she goes, have you ever thought about speech therapy? They scope you, you can look at the mechanisms, the vocal folds and all that stuff.

Rachael: 07:22

I was like, wait, no, that's pretty cool. And I went undeclared the first semester in speech therapy and then literally never looked back. And ever since, I have been able to figure out ways to incorporate music. And I really love the voice side of speech therapy because that allows me to, like, work with singers and all that stuff. Like John Mayer, he had vocal nodules at one point.

Rachael: 07:43

Adele had a vocal polyp. And all these, like, crazy

Joe: 07:47

Brian Luttrell, Backstreet Boys.

Rachael: 07:49

Yep. Absolutely. All of it. And I think Darius Rucker right now is has

Joe: 07:52

I just saw that yesterday. Is that what have or I don't know why it happened. I just saw the video yesterday.

Rachael: 07:57

Yeah. I don't know what is going on. I don't think they've disclosed it, but he is on vocal vocal rest right now for a vocal issue. And it's just stuff that interests me because it's part of my passion. Yeah.

Rachael: 08:07

And that it was the main reason why I got into speech therapy.

Joe: 08:10

So let's talk a little bit just kind of you know, because, obviously, you know, on the podcast, we've had a couple different providers on, but primarily it's, you know, physical therapy related content. And obviously, we're adding a whole new dynamic to what we do at Freedom. Let's just kinda just give a overarching, you know, kind of theme as to, you know, the differences, but also, you know, unique part of speech therapy and just how it kinda compliments what we do, how it, you know, differences with what we do and just how how this goes together. Like Yeah. Because you don't see a lot of this truthfully, right?

Joe: 08:48

No. This combination of PT and speech. So let's kind of just dive into that a little bit.

Rachael: 08:51

Yeah. So there's a lot of cross, like, I don't want to say cross examination, but a lot of things that cross paths when it comes to interdisciplinary work. Yeah. My first job when I was at the outpatient center in the hospital, I worked closely with physical therapists and occupational therapists frequently. And it's a lot like the way it crosses, especially in like a hospital setting, you have your geriatric population.

Rachael: 09:16

And if they're trying to transfer from bed to chair, but they're not sequencing things correctly, that increases their chances of falling, right? So then you see speech therapy and physical therapy crossing paths because speech therapy can come in and work on that sequencing step, work on those sequencing skills to increase their problem solving skills and cognition. And if you have a patient with a stroke, yeah, they'll see some physical decline. But also that depending on where that stroke is in their brain, you could see some language decline. You could see some cognitive decline.

Rachael: 09:50

So you see a lot of crossover in those domains as well. And same with occupational therapy. You have patients in the hospital setting. Again, we can give that example. They're trying to do ADL, so activities of daily living.

Rachael: 10:04

They're trying to brush their teeth, but they're not quite sequencing that correctly. Or they're trying to just they're trying to shower and they can't figure out how to turn the water on. It's just simple skills like that, especially cognitively. That's how it crosses over. You see a lot of crossover with cognition and language is directly related to stuff like Parkinson's.

Rachael: 10:24

And actually Parkinson's disease crosses over voice wise. Parkinson's, you see that decline physically, but you also see that decline vocally. So that crosses over with physical therapy in a lot of ways. And then Parkinson's, I'm sure, would see occupational therapists for their fine motor skills and the little things to do. Traumatic brain injuries, you can see a wide variety of difficulties across physical needs, as well as language needs and all that stuff.

Rachael: 10:51

So the crossover is super interesting, and it crosses over in a lot of ways that you don't really expect, especially And in this when we offer it in one place, it's super helpful for patients that experience those global needs, and they can get it all in one spot.

Joe: 11:06

Yeah. Let's kind of talk about because I feel like most people will think, you you think of speech therapy, right? It's schools, nursing homes, probably hospital too,

Rachael: 11:18

right? Mhmm.

Joe: 11:20

Why should someone seek out private practice instead of those other places? Or what are some of the differences too?

Rachael: 11:29

Yeah. So across settings, when you seek out a private practice, you get a little more of a personal experience. Yeah. Personalized care, personalized rapport, just overall, I think you're more taken care of in a private practice setting. Not saying saying you're not taken care of in the hospital setting or the school setting in any But way, shape or in the schools, I worked in the schools for two years, and a lot of those speech therapists are overloaded with a lot of stuff to do.

Rachael: 11:55

So you have a caseload of 40 to 50 kids for one speech therapist, And then you have to meet these quotas for the state. So then you're rushing to meet those quotas. But then you also have to keep up on the paperwork. So one person is overloaded, and it might show a difficulty keeping up in the personability of the care that they provide. Yeah.

Rachael: 12:16

It depends on the therapist and how they prioritize that. And then if you think about the hospital setting, they're really worried about those productivity levels. How many people you see a day and I'm not saying private practice isn't worried about that either, because they also need to see that success. But in the end, private practice, you can't control that as much because people come, people go. Sometimes they're sick, they can't come.

Rachael: 12:38

Whereas in the hospital, you can kind of control that productivity and make sure you're checking back, going back and forth. If someone refuses you here, you go do another job and then come back to them so you can continue to meet that productivity level. But because that focus is on the productivity level versus the care, sometimes the facility is like, I don't care if you see them for eight minutes, We need to meet these people. And so that's where you won't see that personable care either because it declines there. So I think in private practice, you're given the space to keep that personal connection, give a personalized treatment plan of care, and just overall make sure that they're getting what they need out of so you can put that energy into it.

Joe: 13:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think, you know, and this applies to all health care. And I mean, I feel pretty strongly about this one. And I try not to ruffle feathers on the podcast, but I think a lot of this is true. I I think health care is at a very interesting point right now where providers themselves are not business people.

Joe: 13:39

Right? Most are not. Most figure out business, and they figure it out because they screw it up. And I think that's how you run successful businesses. You have to have experience with it.

Joe: 13:47

But you now bring in some business people because most providers don't wanna handle the business. And then you get this this kind of clash of, you know and spoiler alert for people listening. I know this is gonna be crazy for me to say, but if businesses don't make money, they don't survive.

Rachael: 14:03

Right.

Joe: 14:04

They were I do I we can't do this for free. Mhmm. There's there's a cost to this. So hopefully that doesn't offend anybody. It's That's the reality.

Joe: 14:11

Yeah. But you have this clashing thing, right? We need to see these people. This productivity needs to be up. But yet, we have this level of care we need to try and bring up.

Joe: 14:19

And there's a lot of places that are maximizing that business model because there's so much being just thrown from the other side. So I think it's a really hard balance in general. Think you have people, you know, on one end of the spectrum and some on the other, which just makes it tough, right? And

Rachael: 14:34

I think that a majority of therapists or providers in the health care world in general, they want to keep that patient centered care, you know? But then they do have the people over them that are like, hey, we still need to meet these levels. So it creates, what do you prioritize? And then they try and prioritize the patients and then it kinda it something falls by the wayside. You know?

Rachael: 14:55

It it it's something that is the balance hasn't quite been found yet.

Joe: 14:59

Yeah. How did you get hooked up with Freedom? What's

Rachael: 15:04

You know?

Joe: 15:05

Because right, this is so new. Right? I mean, this is I know this is something Mike's always wanted to do. But it, you know, super different. Right?

Rachael: 15:13

It is super different. And honestly, an opportunity that not a lot of therapists in general get. I get to kind of work on this program and build it from the ground up and build the templates that help me and then also trial and error of whenever we do bring on new speech pathologists, I get to kind of share that with them and get their input and how we can make this a collaborative system. And networking pays. Networking is important, and that's how I got hooked up with this position.

Rachael: 15:41

It wasn't posted. It wasn't projected to the world or anything. I have a friend that worked for Freedom, and I was in the middle of a job hunt and I told her I was like, if you need me, if you need a speech therapist, let me know jokingly. And I honestly don't even think I knew what facility she worked for. And she goes, you know what?

Rachael: 15:59

My boss is actually looking for a speech therapist. Let me put you in touch. And she put me in touch and Mike and I sat down we had a conversation we talked for about an hour about everything that his vision and everything that I could provide and he decided to take a chance on me and invest in me and I'm going do the same thing back and invest in all I can in this and to hopefully create a successful speech department. Yeah. And that's my goal.

Joe: 16:24

Yeah. I think networking is really interesting. It's actually interesting you're bringing up in that aspect too. I agree. I mean, I I'm a big believer in just word-of-mouth referral too.

Rachael: 16:33

Like Mhmm.

Joe: 16:35

I I I hate resumes. I just there's not a better way to do it, but I think resumes are garbage.

Rachael: 16:40

Mhmm.

Joe: 16:41

LinkedIn is garbage Yep. Because it's so much fluff now. But having good connections, I think, is very important. But it's also very important to make sure you have connections that are worthwhile. Like, don't think it's truthfully, don't think it's it's worthwhile to just keep all these connections just to, you know, because, you know, it that's just a good thing to do.

Rachael: 16:59

Right.

Joe: 16:59

But more so keeping connections on places and people that you share the same interest with because you never know what can pop up that way.

Rachael: 17:05

Right.

Joe: 17:05

And I'm sure that our conversation was relatively easy because it already had this warm lead. Right?

Rachael: 17:10

Did

Joe: 17:13

you were you working before or you're in between jobs?

Rachael: 17:17

So I was a part of a contracting position in a school and the school year had ended. So and when the school year ended, there was just a miscommunication with my contract agency. They I was told when I interviewed because I I wanted to set myself up success later on, I was told when I interviewed that they would have hours for me in the summertime. Summertime came around and they couldn't find me any hours and I just needed something that was more stable. Of course.

Rachael: 17:41

A single income home essentially and I have to support myself, so stability is what I needed. And so I was on a I was on a good hunt. And I interviewed I looked at back at my calendar on my phone in June. I interviewed at least three times a week in June. And this position just I was holding out for kind of this position because I just had a feeling that it would it would be worth my while.

Rachael: 18:04

And it absolutely is. And so, yeah, I was like in between jobs for about six weeks and and we just got up and rolling

Joe: 18:11

in the June. Yeah. Perfect. So let's talk about if someone's gonna come in, let's kinda shape this out a little bit. So someone comes in for a speech appointment, give us kind of and obviously, it depends on what they're coming in for.

Rachael: 18:24

Right.

Joe: 18:24

But give us just kind of a general rundown, like how long a session is, what are some of the things that, you know, you're kind of going to go through, and just kind of what the general setup is. And if you want, you could pick up, you know, a potential specific patient that comes in to make it easier.

Rachael: 18:38

Right. So it definitely depends on what they're coming in for and how that's going look. But we need to start off with a referral, of course, from a provider just to get us working into the system. And then with that initial evaluation, depending on what's going on, say a 10 year old that needs a cognitive assessment. Yeah.

Rachael: 18:55

That assessment, we would have about an hour to sit down. I would interview you, get some questions on what's going on, how we can help. And then I have a formalized assessment that you would take part in. Those results would tell me kind of what could be worked on if you're doing actually just fine that you may have these concerns but sometimes these assessments tell us like oh you're actually functioning right where you need to be and then after that depending on the needs we would work on creating a plan of care and that means you would either come into the clinic once or twice a week for thirty minutes and we would sit down, would have some activities to work on those skills and we would go from there depending on how we're acquiring those skills and meeting those goals that we've set and it's a collaborative thing. There's gonna be times where I'll sense of home to work on.

Rachael: 19:41

It's just I like to create that team with my patients and their parents or just my patients in general, just allowing them to give them the resources to work at home and also working on that here once or twice a week for about thirty minutes.

Joe: 19:52

How long is the session?

Rachael: 19:54

Thirty minutes, I think, is what

Joe: 19:55

we're thirty minutes?

Rachael: 19:55

Yeah. Thirty minutes is what we're gonna aim for. I'm sure there will be some wiggle room as we move on. Sometimes you need a little bit more. Sometimes you need a little less.

Rachael: 20:04

The the average will be thirty minutes.

Joe: 20:06

Okay. Evaluation thirty minutes too?

Rachael: 20:08

Evaluation will be one hour average depending but there's going be only like a couple of domains. So like someone had swallowing difficulties and they came in for an evaluation, I don't think I would need a full hour to evaluate that. So it just depends on the domain and what you're coming But in the average of the evaluation would be an hour.

Joe: 20:27

I'm not too familiar with speech. So if this sounds bad, forgive me. K. What are some other like, physical therapy. Right?

Joe: 20:37

We have all these different domains on, like, where you can go into. So I'm continuing education, all that stuff. Is there different subsets of speech or or certain specialties within speech that you're aiming for or have interest in? Yes. As far as continuing ed or certifications, anything like that?

Rachael: 20:51

Yeah, absolutely. So I am gonna look at some TMJ work. I know there's a lot of crisscross with physical therapy and speech therapy with TMJ.

Joe: 20:59

You should probably rephrase that. You're gonna take it. You're gonna take it.

Rachael: 21:03

No. I am gonna take it. I have I have actually a lot of things lined up.

Joe: 21:08

Bad news.

Rachael: 21:09

You're

Joe: 21:09

going to take it.

Rachael: 21:10

Yes. I will be taking it. There's gonna be some crossover with that. So especially with my specialty and and everywhere here. So I'll be I'll be trained in that.

Rachael: 21:18

And voice is still a really big passion of mine. I've always said that when I started off in speech, I want to be a well rounded therapist where I can do it all. But then eventually, after, like three to five years, kind of go into my niche and specialties and voice is definitely one of them because I feel like that would kind of tap into my passions that we talked about earlier. And I really love cognition and working with the geriatric population and and talking to them and working on their problem solving skills or their attention skills or memory. I just love that overall population.

Rachael: 21:48

So those are the kind of the things that I want to do some more continuing education and expand my knowledge on just because I have a lot of experience in like the language therapy and the speech therapy aspect from what I've done in the past. And I want to continue to work on those skills and refine just everything and to be that well rounded therapist.

Joe: 22:09

I love it. Now I am going to assume that outside of work, do not think about speech 20 fourseven.

Rachael: 22:15

I try not to because I decided after I graduated that it's not going to define me outside of it.

Joe: 22:22

Beautiful. I love that. Yeah. I'm a big fan of having boundaries. I think a lot of people here know that because I'm very vocal about that and very strict about working hard at work.

Joe: 22:34

Then when you're outside of work, be a human being. Yep. Outside of work, what do you like to

Rachael: 22:40

I like to I like to go to sporting events and concerts. I do a lot of that. I also play on coed basketball leagues. I really enjoy that. I love throwing the ball for my dog.

Rachael: 22:52

He is so funny. And what else? There's I I like honestly, I like to just kinda roll with a roll with the punches. Like, wherever life takes me. I have a roommate that wins tickets to concerts all the time.

Rachael: 23:05

And she I get lucky enough to go along with her, so If

Joe: 23:09

it's free, I'll take three.

Rachael: 23:12

Alan Jackson, he just had his farewell tour, and his last stop on that tour is in Milwaukee.

Joe: 23:16

Isn't he sick or something?

Rachael: 23:17

He has Marie Tooth syndrome. Like a physical

Joe: 23:25

I just saw something a couple weeks ago maybe, like he was someone said he had to be like propped up on stage because he's

Rachael: 23:31

Yeah. He doesn't have the energy and it's too painful. He is sat on

Joe: 23:34

a

Rachael: 23:34

stool

Joe: 23:34

the majority of the Like a thin stool that

Rachael: 23:36

Mhmm. And by the end of the concert, he needed help walking off. Like, walked onto this stage.

Joe: 23:40

How old is he?

Rachael: 23:41

76, I think.

Joe: 23:42

Oh, he's that old?

Rachael: 23:43

He's older. Maybe 67?

Joe: 23:45

I feel like he has looked the same for the past, like, thirty years.

Rachael: 23:47

He hasn't aged at all, actually. But so we paid about $170 for our nosebleed tickets.

Joe: 23:55

Where at Pfizer?

Rachael: 23:56

Yeah, Pfizer. And because of connections and all that stuff, we just got the opportunity to go down to the pit. Oh, nice. Happened frequently. Like, this Saturday, Thomas Rhett is gonna be at Alpine.

Rachael: 24:10

She won tickets to that, and she also just won a meet and greet with with them.

Joe: 24:14

How? What does she

Rachael: 24:15

She just signs up

Joe: 24:16

Surfs the internet?

Rachael: 24:17

She signs up for all these radio sweepstakes

Joe: 24:21

and

Rachael: 24:21

all that stuff, and she wins them. We recently were on a Duffy boat for two hours for free because she won that sweepstake.

Joe: 24:27

Wow.

Rachael: 24:27

She just I think there was one year that she won so many times they sent her a W2. Like, she is awesome. Wow. So that's just part of what I do outside of it.

Joe: 24:37

Does she like lottery tickets?

Rachael: 24:39

I tell her all the time she needs to enter the lottery. Wow. She's like, I have it. It never I never win. And I was like, then go to Vegas.

Rachael: 24:45

She goes, you know, I have gone to Vegas, and I I won 400, and it was only down 60. Wow.

Joe: 24:51

It's impressive. Since you brought up sports Mhmm. Who do you cheer for?

Rachael: 24:58

So I do enjoy the Bucks and the Rivers. Don't get me wrong. We're we're killing it right now. But the Broncos, the Rockies, and the Nuggets. Those are my teams.

Rachael: 25:08

The rockies

Joe: 25:09

Is that a lot of people from well, I guess even, like, bigger Wyoming, like, whole state. Is there, like, a split, or how does it work? Because you guys don't have a professional team.

Rachael: 25:18

Honestly, I think a majority of people root for the broncos. I think you see some mixture of I've seen some steelers fans, some chiefs fans.

Joe: 25:26

Probably just whatever's on TV probably. Right?

Rachael: 25:28

A lot of the time. But a majority of the people, I think, root for those Denver sports just because it's

Joe: 25:33

the closest? Yeah. What about what is West? Washington? No.

Joe: 25:39

Idaho.

Rachael: 25:41

Yeah. Idaho.

Joe: 25:42

Would it be like seahawks stuff or no? Is that too far, like, from Seattle?

Rachael: 25:46

Maybe. I've seen some seahawks.

Joe: 25:47

Or mariner stuff?

Rachael: 25:48

Yeah. I've seen some of that.

Joe: 25:50

Okay.

Rachael: 25:50

But I see a majority of Broncos and, like, Rockies. Rockies are terrible this year.

Joe: 25:55

Yeah. Painful.

Rachael: 25:56

Pay very painful to watch. Very painful. That's why I I will always support the Brewers and Bucks. The Packers, have a very hard time with. And it's strictly because of Aaron Rodgers, and I know I'll probably get some hate with that.

Rachael: 26:07

But Why

Joe: 26:08

don't you like Aaron Rodgers?

Rachael: 26:09

He's just too a little too prima donna for me. I don't like people that are really good, they know it, and then they play to that, and then they make other people suffer because of it.

Joe: 26:18

Is that the narrative that's being said about him, or is that him personally?

Rachael: 26:21

That's my own personal opinion.

Joe: 26:22

Where are you getting that information from?

Rachael: 26:24

It was from his last season with the Packers.

Joe: 26:26

From the media? Or words out of his mouth? I'm just curious.

Rachael: 26:29

Definitely from the

Joe: 26:31

Do you know I'm a huge Aaron Rodgers fan?

Rachael: 26:32

I believe this. Believe this.

Joe: 26:34

I do.

Rachael: 26:34

I would probably get some hate

Joe: 26:35

from Massive. I have his Jets jersey. I have his Steelers jersey. And I have his Packers jersey.

Rachael: 26:38

I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'm not saying I mean, Brett Favre was painted as not great either. I don't know. I'm working on it.

Rachael: 26:48

I'm working on it. My boyfriend's a big Packers fan. He is a Packers season ticket holder, and I'm gonna be going to some of those games.

Joe: 26:54

Is he an owner too?

Rachael: 26:55

No. No.

Joe: 26:57

Does he live in Milwaukee too?

Rachael: 26:59

I do. Yes. He does. Yeah. Yep.

Rachael: 27:02

He does. And he works nearby too. His family he's from the Green Bay area.

Joe: 27:06

Oh, okay. Mhmm. What high school did you go to?

Rachael: 27:09

He went to what did I

Joe: 27:10

go to? He go to?

Rachael: 27:11

I he went to De Pere.

Joe: 27:14

Oh, okay.

Rachael: 27:14

I don't know which one. It was a I think a private Catholic high school.

Joe: 27:18

Notre Dame?

Rachael: 27:20

Potentially. I'm not sure.

Joe: 27:21

Probably right by the stadium.

Rachael: 27:22

Probably. Yeah. But I think he was signed up to be, like, a season ticket holder when he was, like, a baby.

Joe: 27:29

So Most most people are.

Rachael: 27:31

Yeah. I learned about that recently. It's a it's an intense process.

Joe: 27:34

I've been on it since I was born. I'm still at 10,000.

Rachael: 27:37

You're still at 10,000? Yeah. And I think his dad's a season ticket holder. Like like a bunch of his family members are

Joe: 27:44

It's a big deal in Wisconsin.

Rachael: 27:45

It is a big deal. It is a big deal. That's why I'm working on I'm working on my love for the packers. I don't hate them. I'm just working on it.

Joe: 27:51

Yeah. You should probably work on that. It's a a little odd family if you're not gonna enjoy the packers.

Rachael: 27:56

Yeah. I know. I'm open minded.

Joe: 27:58

That's good. That's good.

Rachael: 27:59

That's the main thing.

Joe: 28:01

Let's finish just with some words of wisdom. Let's kind of what would you say is like a statement or a thought process or treatment philosophy? Just something that you think represents you as a provider and what you would really want your future patients to know about you before they even come in.

Rachael: 28:20

What I really want my future patients to know about me before I come in is that everything is welcome in my space. There is no deficit too great that's gonna that's going to change anything on how I approach you, treat you, and I'm always gonna meet you in the middle, meet you where you're at, and and work with you to to build that confidence and build those skills so we can enhance the quality of your life to the best of your ability. The main thing is is we're a team, and I I approach everything collaboratively for a reason. Growing up playing sports, I learned a lot about just teamwork, give and take, and how you can work together to see that progress. And I feel like the more we approach it that way, we'll see the most progress.

Rachael: 29:07

And that is thing that I want to to be the takeaway from this. I want everyone to walk in knowing that it's a safe safe space and it's gonna be hard and that's okay because we're going to work together so we can gain those skills and have a better life outside of this.

Joe: 29:23

Yeah. I love it. I love it. Rachel, we're excited to have you. This is gonna be a fun little business venture, I think, and a good expansion of Freedom.

Joe: 29:30

It just I I think it's gonna be a good thing overall.

Rachael: 29:32

I think so too. I'm really excited for this opportunity.

Joe: 29:35

Anything else you wanna add before we close this one up?

Rachael: 29:38

Come on down to Freedom.

Joe: 29:40

Yeah. Come have a I said at the beginning too. I'll say it again. Normally, say come see us at all of our four locations. But Speech and Rachel's were only going to be in Fox Point for the time being.

Joe: 29:51

So for anybody that feels like they would be a good fit for Rachel or looking for outpatient private practice speech services, call us at Fox Point. Just Fox Point. You can call the other locations, but we will refer you to Fox Point. Thanks everybody for listening to another episode of the Freedom Talks podcast, and we'll see you guys in the next couple of weeks.

Rachael: 30:12

Thank you.